Suzanne Proksa:
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Suzanne Proksa:
I am here with one of my favorites today, Tammy Morrison. And so prepare yourself because I'm sure we're going to have a very interesting conversation. She has been a friend of mine for several years. She's got books out there and does all kinds of wonderful things, with live video, etcetera. But I am going to let her tell you a little bit about herself to get started, and then we are going to go from there.
Tammi Morrison:
All right. Thank you so much, Suzanne, for having me, I really appreciate this. I am at first, first and foremost, as the children say, I am a wife, a mother, and a grandmother. I have 2 beautiful little grandsons. One is 10 and the other one is 1. How about that? Wow. Right? But I'm a healer and also an author, and I've written I just published my 3rd book, January 1st. Actually, I didn't even realize I had published it on January 1st, but yeah.
Tammi Morrison:
So I'm super excited about all of that because that all came, as a surprise to me because I've always loved writing, but I never saw myself as a writer. And I honestly didn't feel like I was good enough to do that. However, fast forward a few years, I have done that and I've shared my story in my second book, which was definitely a journey, definitely a healing journey.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yes. And I know that you you did really well with that book. Didn't you? I think you got that into a lot of hands.
Tammi Morrison:
Yeah. That book Yeah. That book is all over the world. That's awesome.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. I mean
Tammi Morrison:
I'm so excited because I really I didn't I could be honest with you. I did not have expectations for it. It. I just said, I felt the call to write it. And I knew that it was going to be something that was going to, inspire and to give people hope, you know, and that was really one of the reasons why I decided to share that story because it was difficult to write because it's my story. You know, it it's easier to write if you're writing somebody else's story, but when you're writing your story, it is totally a different thing. And I took my cue from the pursuit of happiness. Oh, no.
Tammi Morrison:
You remember the movie that I
Suzanne Proksa:
was making? Yes.
Tammi Morrison:
The guy that the movie was about, he said they asked him, was it easier for him to write the story or to live the story? And he said it was easier to live it because living it, you don't have time to think about it. You just have to do what you got to do. He said, but writing it, he said, it's like, you have to relive it when you write it. Oh, yeah. To be able to get it out there. And so that I took my cue from him. And that was exactly the experience that I had. I mean, writing it was, I mean, I wrote that book in 30, about 30 days.
Tammi Morrison:
Wow. But I, I was, on a mission, you know, when I wrote it and I, I, I felt like I needed to get it out, you know, and I felt like, I felt like it was something that people needed to read, you know, because I felt like it would give them so much hope, you know, because I, because when I went through a lot of this stuff that I wrote about in the book, I actually remember asking God, I said, why did I have to go through all this? You know, and I went through it really young. And so I asked God, so why do I have to go through all this? And I heard so clearly, like I had never heard up until that point before, you know, this is not for you. And so when I thought back to that, cause that was like 30 years ago when I had that conversation with God. But when I thought back on it and you know, that came back to me and I was like, okay, so I need to share this story, you know, so that people will know that you can go through all kinds of stuff and you can still, you know, come out on top and you can still rock it and you can still, you know, have your life and stuff. Even if you've been through, you know, I call it hell, you know? So that was one of the things that made me decide to really get this out. And then even after I wrote it, I still kind of sat on it for a little while. Cause I was like, I don't know about this, you know, because you know, can cause cause you're putting your life out there, you know? Yeah.
Tammi Morrison:
I'm like, I don't know about that. And I think about it now, it's like, my life is all over the world. It's in almost every country. So I was like, okay. But once I, I went through the process and I did it, you know, because the backstory of this is that this is the 3rd time I've written this book the 3rd time. Wow. So like I wrote it one time and of course it wasn't complete because it was before I finished, But I wrote it and I I had to go on a computer that so that was gone. And then I wrote it again and I had printed it off because I said, I'm not going to have it, you know, disappearing again, printing that off and the stars that I lost because I took this, this huge leap to move across the country.
Tammi Morrison:
And so, yeah. So then this time I was like, okay, I'm like, you have to get this out here. So I got, you know, some encouragement from a few people and I was like, okay. All right. I can do this. And then I actually shared it with my current husband, you know? And he was like, oh my God. He told me, he said, Haiti, he said, I had no idea that you went through all that. And I was like, yeah, not like dinner time conversation.
Tammi Morrison:
You know, that's not like first date material. Right. So I was like, okay. Yeah. So, but yeah, he, so he was like crying when he read it. He was like, maybe that thing had me in tears. And I was like, yeah, I had some of those too along the way. That could be.
Tammi Morrison:
But yeah, so that, that definitely was a healing journey for me. And I'm actually encouraging people to do that, to share their story, whether they want to share it publicly, you know, because a lot of people don't want to share it publicly, but they just need to get it out, you know, because writing helps you to heal in that way.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. I totally, you know, I also would like to share some of my story as well. And I'm in one of those positions where I I'm sitting here thinking to myself, is my mom gonna read it? You know? Right. And, because some of it would, you know, involve her as well, and it's like, oh, I don't know. You know? So I know I totally understand how brave you have to be to put that out there. Yeah. And and one thing I was gonna say is, do you mind just telling the audience a little bit about
Tammi Morrison:
Oh, yeah.
Suzanne Proksa:
About your story to give them some context? And then I don't know if we mentioned the book title.
Tammi Morrison:
Oh, okay. So that book title is you walking away, But when you were talking about your mom thing, I did wrote a mom story too. Oh, and that was the unchanging model. And that was the first one was an, anthology. And that's, yeah, I actually had to have a conversation with my mom about that because it was about her and our relationship and, you know, and so I had to share that with her because there were things in there that I never really told her, you know?
Suzanne Proksa:
So I
Tammi Morrison:
shared it with her and I said, Hey, I wanna write this. You know, I'm gonna write this book, you know? And I didn't even ask her. I just said, I'm going to write this book. You know, I already had contracted to write it. And so I said, I'm gonna write this book and this is what it's going to be. And this is what's going to be in it. And I just want you to know, and are you okay? And she said, yeah, I'm fine with it. And, believe it or not, my mom was like one of my strongest supporters.
Tammi Morrison:
She was the first one to purchase the book.
Suzanne Proksa:
Oh, wow. That's awesome. Yeah. I mean, she
Tammi Morrison:
bought like the ebook and she bought a piggyback as well.
Suzanne Proksa:
I love it.
Tammi Morrison:
Yeah. So that was, that was something, you know, I was like, but that also was a healing journey, you know, because I, I knew that, you know, we needed to heal. I wanted to heal, you know, with my mom because our relationship was crazy and I had a better relationship with my grandmother. And so I wanted that relationship to heal. So I built in that story about that, but this one walking away, which is my story and that has let me be what it all says, walking away, winning the war aid and abandonment. So that in that story, it was about relationship that I have with my ex husband. And he was a cheater. He just liked to cheat with other women.
Tammi Morrison:
And I was married to him for about 20 years because I kept forgiving him. And so the story, I think I, we start the story with when he was being diagnosed with HIV because you know, the cheating catches up with people sometimes, especially if they do it, you know, I'm protected. And so it did. And so I wrote that story and talks about, you know, basically I think it started out with us going to the hospital because he actually had pneumonia and I knew that he had pneumonia because I am a nurse. I listened to him a lot. And so I went to the hospital. The doctor actually said he had presumptive sign of HIV. And I said, and it was funny because the doctor actually didn't even name it.
Tammi Morrison:
He just said he has presumptive sign that I, I gathered that he knew that I would know because I actually had worked, with him at another hospital. So he knew me. And so, we just took it there and we, you know, once we got a diagnosis and all that stuff, and then I kind of just went over, you know, how we managed that and how we navigated it and with our kids and stuff, because you know, our kids, I didn't tell our kids, we didn't tell them, they didn't know for years because they were young and I just didn't think that they could handle it or I didn't, I knew they could handle it, but I didn't want them to have to handle it, you know, because this was back in 2000, I think. And the stigma was so bad. I mean, it's, it's still not as good as it probably could be, but the stigma back then was really, really bad. And I didn't want my kids to have to deal with that. And I didn't want them to be thinking, you know, my dad is going to die. You know, I just didn't want that for them.
Tammi Morrison:
So we, you know, we, we made the decisions to keep that for them because they were, I think they were like 10 12 when this happened, you know? So I couldn't imagine having to deal with that kind of thing at that age. Right. You know, and you know, we, you know, as a mother, we protect our kids, you know, at all trust and almost no different than that. So I really wanted them to, you know, because I didn't want them to have to grow up too early. You know, I needed them to be children as long as they were going to be children, you know? And I felt like something like that would knock them out of the children arena. So, yeah. So, yeah, so it, it was, it was a journey and, and it's amazing that I can talk about it now. Like I can, because I feel like the healing has set in, you know, and it's, it's, it's because it, it was so many things, you know, because for me, I felt like, you know, I didn't feel left because he was this man that I was married to that, you know, didn't wanted to have sex with all kinds of other people.
Tammi Morrison:
And so that was something that I, I, you know, I shoved down and I pushed down a lot until I, you know, really until I began to write about it, you know, because I, I think I, because I actually did counseling and all this stuff once I got my divorce and what, and stuff like that. And so I need, I knew I needed that and I needed to talk to somebody. And I actually got my kids counseling as well because I knew they needed to talk to somebody, you know? And, you know, so I thought I had ironed out a lot of things, but when I sat down to write this thing, so many emotions came, so many emotions and so many things that I thought I had already healed. Right. So, yeah, so that was, it was a journey. It really was, you know, it really was.
Suzanne Proksa:
So, you know, with what you just mentioned about, you know, just all of the feelings and everything that came up, you, you talk in your, bio about helping women find their voice, but then, you know, when you find that voice, then, you know, you, you can run into, you know, these things coming, coming back and having to heal. I mean, what did, how did you find your way through all of that? What did, what did you do to work your way through all of those feelings and still manage to get your, your voice out there and the strength to put your story out there?
Tammi Morrison:
Lot of shadows, lot of shadow work, lot of looking at the dark side, you know, lots of that and lots of healing work, you know, and lots of prayer and lots of journaling.
Suzanne Proksa:
And this is work that you help other people with, isn't it? Yes.
Tammi Morrison:
Yeah. That's actually how I got here because I started looking and I said, you know, I started thinking, what would I have wanted? You know, because all of these things I never get it on my own. I only help I got was when I went and got the counseling, and I I had 4 sessions. So that was the only help that I had. I had. So I, you know, so everything that I did, I cultivated, you know, I created things and I did stuff on my own. You know, I actually sat down and started doing like sticky notes on the mirror, the bathroom and on the refrigerator, you know, and everywhere that I was going to be look, Mhmm. You know, just saying beautiful things to myself, like, you know, you're beautiful, you know, you're smart and you're, you know, all these things that we want people to say to us.
Tammi Morrison:
I said to myself, you know, and I did that and I, I, I, yeah. And I did a lot of meditating because that was promising in order to try to just create that, that piece, you know, because that really is the major thing. It's like, you know, when you go through stuff like that, and then when you bring it back up and you have to relive it, you know, it, it, it, it disrupts your peace. So in order to cultivate that peace and just, you know, high honesty, just took some time and, and just got into myself, you know, like that, that, that primary form of intimacy. Yes. You know, and that, that was the thing, because that, you know, because a lot of times we spend so much time on the outside of ourselves, you know, and dealing with other people and, you know, things like that. And it's like a lot of times we don't spend that intimate time, you know, that intimacy, you know, you don't go inside, you know, and, and, and a lot of times we don't go inside because we're scared of what we don't find.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yes. And there's a definitely a level of honesty that is required Yeah. When you do that, because I think you're, you're well aware. I've been doing just a huge healing journey myself. Yes. Over the last 3 years, I think that people who, who used to know me, they know a completely different person. Yes, I agree. And it is some it's work sometimes painful, sometimes joyful, but incredibly freeing.
Tammi Morrison:
Yes. That is that's the thing, The freedom, you know, it's like you, there's nothing better, you know, than, than freedom and peace. You know, it's like, oh God, here we go. You know, and sometime I sit there and I, I used to used to hear this song in my head all the time. It's a little bit older song, but the greatest thing, how did we get here? You know what she said? How how did you get here? She said, I can't sing it. You're Yes. Nobody's supposed to be here. You remember that one?
Suzanne Proksa:
Yes. Oh, that was great. Yeah.
Tammi Morrison:
I love that. And I, I remember that and that song would play in my head. Like, how did, how did, how did we get here? You know, like, wow. And that would just be playing, you know, how did we get here? Because sometimes you you're just going, but you don't even know how you got to the place, you
Suzanne Proksa:
know? Yes. I absolutely agree. Can the audience just laugh with us on that one? Like, yes.
Tammi Morrison:
It's like, oh my god. Here we go. You know? But how do we get here? You know? How did we get here?
Suzanne Proksa:
Yes. Yes, yes, yes.
Tammi Morrison:
But yeah, so, I am, I feel like you, you know, like I am a whole nother person than I was even, I would say even 2 years ago. Oh, yes. You know, because I mean, for me, I had this amazing journey where I left I'm gonna say the state, South Carolina, and I went and moved to Arizona. And I did it because I heard spirit told me to do it. And so I did, I had a job, you know, I had a place to stay because I had a cousin that invited me out, but I had no job. I had a car note and, you know, I, I left. I said I had a dollar and a dream because I was called to do that. And you know, now I know why, because my husband, I met him in Arizona, you know? And so I, I guess I had to get there in order, you know, for him to find me, you know, but, but yeah.
Tammi Morrison:
So I, I, when I think about it, it's like, wow. You know, cause when, even when I think back, I'm like, damn, you did what? Yeah. Honest. Yeah. You know? So you have everything and everybody, you know, Becky. Yeah. And they own in Washington state. I'm a dad.
Suzanne Proksa:
That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. I actually often I'm in a position where I could do the exact same thing. Yep. You know? And I I think about it, you know, so I totally understand what you mean by being called and that's, that's awesome. You know, to hear somebody say that, yeah, I did this and, and it worked out great. It worked out fine.
Tammi Morrison:
I'm telling you I never ever would have dreamed because I wasn't looking for anybody, you know, as far as a man, I was just, you know, not happy with what I where I was and wasn't getting no no good prospects. You know? I mean, because, you know, I'm I I look at you and I'm like, you're cute. So you probably get plenty of prostates, but, you know, you gotta get good one.
Suzanne Proksa:
Exactly. Yeah.
Tammi Morrison:
And then the thing is, is once you get to a certain point in life, you know what you want, and especially if you already had some things that weren't good, you know what you want, you know, and you, and once you begin to put that out there and you say, okay, this is what I want. He's got to have debts, you know, because there were certain requirements that I like because I need a man that like has good insurance of getting older. Yeah. You know, you look at things like that, you know, it's like, okay, I need somebody. Cause I know for me, I don't work a job, but I don't like to stay at jobs. I, if it starts getting crazy, I just go. I peace out so fast. So I don't want to be thinking about, you know, I gotta stay here because I gotta have this insurance.
Tammi Morrison:
No, fuck that. You know? So that was one of the things on my list, you know, that was my example. But, but yeah, so you, you, you do, you get to a place, you know what you want and you're not going to settle for, you know, anything else. You know? And then you you for me, I said, I need a man that that's gonna love me. Like, I need to be loved, you know, because we all have our ways to be loved. Yes. Everybody has a way that, that they're loved and everybody has a love language, you know? But yeah, but we're not all loved the same. Right?
Suzanne Proksa:
That's right. Yeah. I love languages, gifts.
Tammi Morrison:
So I'm just, you know, Yeah. I went that all the way. I love I like where I'm at. Flowers and things. Yeah.
Suzanne Proksa:
But you I'm an only child. So
Tammi Morrison:
Oh, wow.
Suzanne Proksa:
That yeah. If that explains it. Yeah.
Tammi Morrison:
It sure does. Uh-huh. Oh my gosh. I laughed. I said I laughed. I said I said, once you, target that, you know, then you're already so far out the gate. You know, once you know what your love language is so that you can tell people. Cause the thing is, is, you know, men, a lot of times they don't be knowing, you know, you have to tell them.
Tammi Morrison:
Yeah. You know, Apid. So, so what I really like is I like this, this type of ring. Right. And I like these, I like coach pocketbooks, or I like Michael Kors or, you know, this is what I like. And you see this necklace, this is what I like. You know, when you do that, then, you know, they get you stuff you like.
Suzanne Proksa:
Mhmm. I'm easy. Concert tickets and get me in the front rows.
Tammi Morrison:
That's it.
Suzanne Proksa:
Well, not right now, obviously, but
Tammi Morrison:
Not now.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. Let's not go get started on that topic.
Tammi Morrison:
No. Because I tell you that is what I miss the most is is just being able to go out, like like, tonight. Me and my husband are both home, and he's like, baby, we need to find some place to go because we need to go out. We need, I said, honey, those places are not open. Right. They're not open. And if they were, we find out we didn't go in there anyway.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. Probably not a good idea. Yeah.
Tammi Morrison:
When I because I love I mean, oh, girl. I I could dance. We usually shut clubs down when we go in.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yes. Me too.
Tammi Morrison:
We'll dance to
Suzanne Proksa:
Even at my age. Oh, yeah. Even at my age.
Tammi Morrison:
Older than you. Are you? Yeah.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. I it's so it's so funny because my, my friends are all like,
Tammi Morrison:
you can stay at home, watch TV,
Suzanne Proksa:
read Proksa, and I'm like, get me out of here.
Tammi Morrison:
Yeah. I'm going to dance. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's I know. I know the last place I went, I think was we went to a reggae club. This was before the coronavirus came out, I think right before I think. Yeah.
Tammi Morrison:
It was like January, I think. And I was in Tucson, a place that they do reggae. It was really nice. Fun? Yes. Lots of fun. I was like, this was blast. You know, good fun, nice music, and good drinks. Win, win, win.
Tammi Morrison:
Yes.
Suzanne Proksa:
Hopefully it will still be there for you whenever this ends.
Tammi Morrison:
You know, a lot of the places are shutting down. I know. And it's sad because there's money out there for them. But you know, I have, what I've been noticing is that they've been given a lot of the big businesses money and the smaller businesses are not getting it like they shared.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. I think some of them aren't trying either. I think that's part of the issue. Like locally, we have a lot of, not a lot, but a few venues that are more music related and they've definitely asked for the money. Just
Tammi Morrison:
really
Suzanne Proksa:
just really don't seem to have tried much of anything. So
Tammi Morrison:
I think they probably got frustrated, to be honest with you. Yeah. When I was thinking about that, I said, they're probably just, like, tired. But because I could see how that could really wear on you. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know? Because it because it happens so weekly. Yes. I mean, it was like, shit.
Tammi Morrison:
It's like our world changed overnight.
Suzanne Proksa:
It really did. I yeah. I re I remember the day when I mean, it was midday when we decided to send everybody home, and then it's been over a year. Yeah. That's right. Literally been well, maybe in a week or 2, it will be over a year. Like there it was a day in March and we're sending everybody home by 2. I mean, yeah.
Suzanne Proksa:
Crazy.
Tammi Morrison:
It started like right here.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. Right.
Tammi Morrison:
They actually told me the facility that, that got it first. Cause they're, cause I was like, where about zones? So they were like, you don't wanna go there? They got COVID.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. Well, I went to a truly sold out concert Luke Combs at the end, well, mid February of 2020.
Tammi Morrison:
Where was that?
Suzanne Proksa:
And thank goodness I went, first of all, and it was also, I mean, he's just such an amazing artist. I wish people that hated country music would just listen to him. Yeah. He's like super talented. And, you know, a lot of times these arenas claim they're sold out when they're not, but this one truly was. There was not a seat empty in that plate and it's huge. And, I had to tell you, you know, I I'm high risk, so it would surprise me if I didn't land in the hospital, but I will say I was incredibly sick with something, you know, within a couple of weeks.
Tammi Morrison:
We, I believe that my husband and I had this thing because in January, girl, I was sick as a dog, and I'm I never get, like, sick like that. Mhmm. You know what I mean? The fibromyalgia is one thing, but I manage that with just keeping the stress down and all that if I can't. So when I start feeling pain and all that stuff, it means that I need to make a change. I need to, you know, do something. So I managed that, but with like respiratory and stuff like that, I'm never rarely ever sick. And so I got so sick girl. I had to call out of work and I never really do that either of much, but I just, I could not, oh my God.
Tammi Morrison:
I felt like I was going to die. Yeah. No, what is it? And I went to the doctor and he couldn't find shirt. The chat, they weren't live. They weren't looking for, you know, the COVID because this was like January, Right? Like right at the end of December, when the year we were flipping over the year, me and my husband, same thing. He went to the doctor too. Nothing. Couldn't nothing.
Tammi Morrison:
They were like, oh, it's just a virus. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. We've been truly, truly fortunate because my husband works in, in high risk. Like I said, we never stopped working. We were always still working because we were when they call them people essential workers. Yes.
Tammi Morrison:
So we we never stopped and and we we we were both clean. We haven't got it. And and my husband, they test him every week. And we were getting tested every week until, oh, I think last week. Now they're saying, I think we're down to every month or every other week. I don't know. Some shit.
Suzanne Proksa:
Probably every other.
Tammi Morrison:
I just don't even keep up. I'm like, y'all just let me know when I need to fucking. Yeah.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. Because at least the test isn't that one they were using early on. Now it's not bad at all. Right.
Tammi Morrison:
Yeah. So it's all good.
Suzanne Proksa:
So I have one last question for you. In your bio, you, you talk about people having 2 stories. I think this is really cool. How you see yourself and how the world sees you. Yes. Do you wanna talk about that just briefly?
Tammi Morrison:
Yes. But yes, that actually hit me one day. I was actually live at Facebook And I heard that come out of my mouth. So I knew that it was from my guides because I hadn't even thought about it. But what, what that looks like is we all see ourselves in actually a few different ways, you know, because I thought about it like this, the way we present ourselves on Facebook is one way, of course, for a lot of people, you know, there are those of us like you and like me, you know, and other people that are on fintech and you know, what you see is what you get, you know, but then there are other people that, you know, they just show their, their cars and their, you know, houses kind of like what the rappers in the videos. Yeah. You know, so you, you know, you see those people and then how the world sees you. When you look at that, they look at, you know, whatever story you put out there, they see that, you know, and then there are those that are, you know, like you and I that can see through all that.
Tammi Morrison:
It's just like, okay, how do you see yourself? You know, because a lot of times we don't see ourselves like the world sees us. Right. The world sees when I look and I, well, actually when I sit, when I talk to people and when I have done client sessions and stuff, people see me way bigger than I see myself. You know, people have seen me let's go there because I have shifted and transformed where I can see myself being bigger, but people still people see me in one way and I see myself another way. And that's typically how it is for everybody. You know, people see you, people see you, and you're larger than life, Suzanne.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah.
Tammi Morrison:
You are. You're just, you're just this huge person, but you see yourself as, as just, just Suzanne.
Suzanne Proksa:
Right.
Tammi Morrison:
You know, just, just get Suzanne around the way, girl. But people see you as Suzanne extraordinaire, you know?
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. So
Tammi Morrison:
that, so that was kind of the origin of, of that, that, that statement. It, it hit me like, I was like, who, how that is so real. Yeah, that's true. Because you see yourself one way the world sees you another way. Yeah. They don't always blend. No, they don't. Sometimes they, they merge and get, get pretty close, but not only, you know, and it it it really is interesting when you ask, you know, how do they see you? What do they think you are? What do they think you do or something like that? You know? And then you'll you'll get some surprising answers.
Tammi Morrison:
Yes. Or you'll get some answers that, that lights you up. You're right. You For sure. You know? Because I actually had somebody say that to me on live one time. I was like, I'm just I'm just a regular I'm just a regular girl. You know? I'm a 52 year old girl now, but I'm a regular girl. You know? Yeah.
Tammi Morrison:
I was like, I put my pants on same way you do. You know, I go to the bathroom and pee same way you do. You know, unless you stand up or something, I don't know. But I'm like, you know, yeah. I'm a real, I mean, I'm a real girl. I I laughed. I thought about it. What is that? Pinocchio.
Tammi Morrison:
I'm a real girl. Yeah. You know?
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. I mean, I think that is that is definitely one of the things that was super weird about getting into online business.
Tammi Morrison:
Yeah.
Suzanne Proksa:
All of a sudden, you're like this little celebrity almost.
Tammi Morrison:
Mhmm.
Suzanne Proksa:
You know, not big time, obviously, but Facebook famous. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's crazy. I would tell
Tammi Morrison:
you something, something funny that happened to me. So I went to this job and I was, you know, doing orientation or whatever. And so this girl walks up to me and she said, Hey, she's, how are you doing? And I said, oh, good. And she introduced herself and whatever. And then she said, I said something. And she looked at me, she said, I know you. And I looked at her and said, you do. She said, at least I know your voice.
Tammi Morrison:
And I looked at her and I said, Facebook. She said, yes. I was just watching you on Facebook because she went back. She's like, I was just watching you on Facebook the other day. I said, yeah. Facebook famous. How true. But it was cute though.
Tammi Morrison:
I thought it was really cute.
Suzanne Proksa:
Uh-huh. Yeah. It's it's crazy. Mhmm. Actually, the TikTok, the people who go from nobody knows their name, and then they do one viral TikTok in their
Tammi Morrison:
they're girl. Do you know how easy it is to give views over there? Yeah, it is. I was like, maybe it's because it's 60 seconds.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. That and reels are a big deal.
Tammi Morrison:
Yes. You know, and I laughed. I thought about it. I said, it makes sense though, because if you think about it, we live in a microwave society. You know, everybody wants things yesterday. Yep. You wanted to take 30 seconds. Yeah.
Tammi Morrison:
And so if you put a reel on this, what, a minute and the tick box is 60 seconds or whatever, then, you know, you can get a little bit of information and go about your day.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. I keep telling clients like, you know, no, really, you, you don't have to have your course videos be an hour. Your people will not finish.
Tammi Morrison:
That's what I tell people.
Suzanne Proksa:
Short videos. Even if you're splitting something up into shorter videos, it's gonna keep their attention better. You know, people just nobody has the time or the the bandwidth attention span.
Tammi Morrison:
No.
Suzanne Proksa:
I mean, especially now, you know, everybody's so stressed out. Your brain can only do so much. Yes. You know? And I I swear that's why, you know, Disney, you know, they're putting out all of this great all these great shows and content. And if you notice, they're all 30 to 40 minutes, they're short.
Tammi Morrison:
Yes. Well, I'm gonna tell you, I had a friend that told me, she said, you need to write some of those shorts. She said, you can do Amazon shorts. And that's what my third book is. It's the Amazon short and it's an ebook. Cool. So it's on Amazon, but, you know, it's not a paper bag or anything. It's easy so you can get it on the Kindle, but it's in short.
Tammi Morrison:
And she told me, she said, girl, she said, people are making a killing with those things. Nice. I said, well, it's time for me to make a killing it. Yeah.
Suzanne Proksa:
So our, what's a great idea.
Tammi Morrison:
And to make that short and it actually, it actually is a short story is what it was, but it's a long short story. So I was, when I was looking at it, I was thinking about trying to cut it down some, or make it into 2 stories or something like that. Cause it was a long short story. Right. So when she gave me that idea, I was like, oh, you know what? I'm jumping on it. And so I just, you know, got that thing edited and, you know, found somebody didn't make the cover and all that and put that thing together. And I was like, okay, this is what's up. And I got a couple more I'm about to do that way.
Tammi Morrison:
Cause I was like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. She, she was like, girl, and she's like, they're they're making and she I laugh. I tell her why she's a real writer because she's written like 15 or 20 books.
Suzanne Proksa:
And she, well, that's, that is definitely interesting. And so, I mean, you know, there are definitely people in my audience who are looking for, for ways to do such things. So, hey, maybe we just drove a bunch of people to, do Amazon short.
Tammi Morrison:
I'm telling you. And if they need some help, they can call me because I am an intuitive book consultant.
Suzanne Proksa:
Well, and that brings me to my my very, last question for you. And that is how can people get in touch with you if they want to check you out, work with you, whatever? Okay. Awesome.
Tammi Morrison:
I'm glad you asked Suzanne. So they can get in touch with me on Facebook at Unleashing Your True Self. They can get in touch with me on Instagram, and I am Tammy y Morrison. They can get in touch with me on my YouTube channel, which is Tammy Morrison. And also on LinkedIn, Tammy Morrison dash unleashing your true self. I'm trying to think. I think those are all the places that they get in touch with me. They can always, send me a message on Messenger, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn, any of those things.
Tammi Morrison:
I try real hard to check. I check Facebook more than all the rest of them, but I'm really trying to get myself in a habit of making sure I check all through those. Yes.
Suzanne Proksa:
Awesome. And then are you on Clubhouse as well?
Tammi Morrison:
Oh, yes. I am on Clubhouse. Intuitive Penny.
Suzanne Proksa:
Awesome.
Tammi Morrison:
Yeah. I love clubhouse. I just have not, you know, you guys do the, do the early morning thing, you know, from the east coast. So you guys are on, like, 1 o'clock or something. And so that's, like, 10 o'clock my time because I'm out west. Yeah. And I just don't always get up that early because I had to I had to give myself some grace because I was having problems with flipping my schedule. You know, cause I I've I've worked night shift for over 20 years.
Tammi Morrison:
And so my body as I've gotten older, does not like the flip back like it used to. Like I used to Proksa when I was younger, I could just like, I get up this morning. I could just stay up all day and then sleep at night. But my body is not doing that type of shit now. Wow. So I'm going like late.
Suzanne Proksa:
Yeah. So one thing that I am going to start doing is doing what I call like after parties after shows.
Tammi Morrison:
Oh, nice.
Suzanne Proksa:
And so if you are interested, we can schedule it at a time when you'll you'll be awake. I'll be awake.
Tammi Morrison:
Yes.
Suzanne Proksa:
And we could do, like, an after after podcast, after party room sometime in late March.
Tammi Morrison:
Nice. If you would be interested. I am interested. Just, you know, send me a message so I could put it on the you know?
Suzanne Proksa:
Awesome. So for everybody listening, if you wanna make sure that you don't miss that, Tammy gave you her handle. Mine is at Suzanne Proksa, like, literally everywhere. It's consistent across the board. And, just make sure you click the little bell at the top so you get notified when I have rooms. But of course, I also publicize the daylights out of them. And if you are a member of my club on clubhouse of the visible and profitable female entrepreneur that should improve your chances even better of seeing it. Cause I'll make sure that I run it through that room, but make it visible to everybody.
Suzanne Proksa:
So end of March, Tammy, we will figure something out for that. Well, thank you so much for hanging out with me today. We definitely covered a lot. Finding your voice, a little talk about COVID. It was an it was a great discussion, probably led a bunch of people to go write Amazon shorts. So I would say it was a pretty productive episode.
Tammi Morrison:
I truly enjoyed it. I always love anytime I can be in your presence anyway, because Suzanne, she don't know. I had a girl crushing her for, like, since I met her. I was like, she, she is just so sweet. And your boys, I think I saw a lot of you did, you know, back then what about 40 years ago now? So.
Suzanne Proksa:
Oh yeah. I
Tammi Morrison:
saw a lot of them. I was like, oh my gosh, it's fantastic. I just locked her. And you can feel the passion that you have. You can see it, you can feel it, you can hear it. And I really just wanted to tell you that.
Suzanne Proksa:
Oh, thank you so much. That is a great way to end the show. That is awesome. Thank you so much. Thank you
Tammi Morrison:
to the
Suzanne Proksa:
audience, and we will see you on the next episode, everybody.
Tammi Morrison:
Awesome. Thank you so much. Much for having me, Suzanne.
Suzanne Proksa:
I hope that you loved this episode. If you did, give me those shout outs, show me some love on iTunes, give me a rating and hey, if you wanna know where to find me, you can find me on pretty much all social media at Suzanne Proksa suzanneproxsa and you can also head over to my website, suzanneprosa.com. Until then, I'll see you in the next episode and here is the parte music for you.
